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There are lots of subtleties about the interaction of the EA and other legislation. For instance, the Workplace Regulations is informed by the EA: "The regulations ensure that the workplace meets the health, safety and welfare needs of the workforce, including people with disabilities. The definitions also include those coming under the definitions from The Equality Act 2010" (https://www.leia.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/25-Workplace-Regulations-1992-issue-3.pdf - the Lift and Elevator Industry Association, just a random pick of interaction between the two bits of legislation). So if the WR talk, as they do, about providing single-sex facilities for females if there are more than 25 people on the site, then "females" means what the EA says. So I'm not so persuaded that the Good Law Project, which has an absolutely woeful track record in all its challenges on this narrow topic, has any justification in its legal swagger.

And by the way, the GLP's claim that one of the signers of the LBA is "intersex" is misleading: like everyone, they're either male or female. "Intersex" is an outmoded word, since 2005; those in the field now use the phrase "difference of sex development" (DSD). Nobody is "between" sexes; the word was abandoned because it's misleading. The person involved will know, from their consultation with doctors, what their biological sex is, even if their presentation is difference (for example if they have CAIS).

I have very serious doubts that the GLP's action on this will have any success: a 5-0 Supreme Court judgment which is a clarification of existing law about the interaction of human rights between the two sexes. It is not new legislation. It does not change any existing legislation. I do not see any path to a successful challenge in the ECHR.

You didn't mention that Owen, as chair of the WESC, seemed completely uninformed about what the SC judgment (there's no "e" in court decisions) affects: she claimed it's "just about membership of boards". No - that's what kicked off the challenge, but the upshot was to clarify what "sex" means in the EA. And claims that the GRA somehow overrides the EA are false too: S9(3) says that other legislation can override it. (https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2004/7/section/9)

"The EHRC.. is attempting to rewrite [the law] so that it is as punishing to trans people as possible". The EHRC's job is, largely, to implement and protect the EA, isn't it? If the SC gives them a clarified reading of what the meaning of the EA is, should the EHRC say "oh, those judges! Just ignore them." Of course not. That's why the read-across to other legislation such as the Workplace Regulations becomes important, and unavoidable. Imagine if, as soon as the EA2010 had been passed, this court case had arisen and progressed to the same result, which would have been at the then-new Supreme Court. We'd be in exactly the same position as now, but without the many years of having had what now turns out to be the wrong interpretation of the law. There's no rewriting here. The EHRC has to consider where the EA affects people, and try to find *legal* descriptions of what organisations need to do, if anything.

You write "Most people cannot take a job if they have to out themselves to their colleagues whenever they need the loo." I'd ask: really? This is very easy to claim, but is there data - polling or similar - to back it up? (I couldn't find any on a quick search.) Any workplace should, thanks to the EA, also have toilets (aka "sanitary facilities", mentioned multiple times in the SC judgment) for the disabled or mothers etc, which provides an easy option. "They will not go to a restaurant or the theatre or attend trade union meetings or go to church or see their child in a school play." Again, all of those would have multiple facilities. And as I think I said on a previous post of yours about this, reasonable people can agree about things. The EHRC interim guidance also says" "however where facilities are available to both men and women, trans people should not be put in a position where there are no facilities for them to use". That's unequivocal.

And there's the final subtlety that Falkner pointed out: this guidance, and the concerns expressed, only applies to holders of GRCs - about 8,000 people. For those not holding GRCs, nothing has changed at all.

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Lord Sumption and Lady Hale are retired. Neither of them ever practised in equalities legislation and it is they who have misinterpreted the FWS judgment; not the other way around. The judges in the Supreme Court who actually heard the case were unanimous, therefore Baroness Falkner and the EHRC are entirely correct to say that there is nothing to discuss in terms of the judgment. Your assertion to the contrary is nonsense.

Your offensive and frankly sexist attack on Baroness Falkner is disgraceful and flies in the face of what everyone else saw and heard, namely an utterly ill-informed, negligent and embarrassing performance by the majority of the WESC. It was abundantly clear that they hadn't bothered to read the judgment, had no idea what the FWS case was about and also didn't understand what the Equality Act or the Gender Recognition Act or the Workplace Regulations actually say.

If you want genuinely informed comment I suggest you read Dr Michael Foran, or Naomi Cunningham KC, or Peter Daly.

The Good Law Project has an abysmal litigation record, the 'swagger' you refer to is their stock in trade and means less than nothing.

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